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Hydrogen Fuel Cells were supposed to save the auto industry from climate change, and promised no harmful emissions from the tailpipe, just pure water. So what happened? Why hasn't the hydrogen car taken over the industry in the years since? And what future does this amazing technology have? Well, it's complicated.
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  1. Abdullah Talha

    Abdullah Talha

    2 mínútum síðan

    That Hydrogen car looked like it was peeing. LoL

  2. Anthony Farnan

    Anthony Farnan

    20 mínútum síðan

    You could have swapped the word “hydrogen” with “electric” 20 years ago and this video would still work. But look at us now - EVs are like 5-10% of the passenger vehicle market.

  3. Riccardo Manganoni

    Riccardo Manganoni

    Klukkustund síðan

    Lithium?!?!?!? Production of Cars?!?!?

  4. Seal6

    Seal6

    3 klukkustundum síðan

    12:10 take in consideration the process of producing electricity. the electric cars ar 35-40% efficient

  5. Isaac Gibbs

    Isaac Gibbs

    10 klukkustundum síðan

    I am studying HFC vehicles at uni and I think there are some logical errors with your fourth point on energy production. It is not fair to whack 80% on EV's and say for this reason they are better for the environment. The power may still be generated using coal or gas, with high carbon emissions. A fairer comparison would be to look at efficiencies of each fuel at each stage of production and use(coal, gas, hydro, solar, HFC's, EV's, IC's etc.). Then look at the "sustainability rating" of each method in terms of carbon production. Then further in the case of a complete uptake by a population of a certain vehicle, the total power requirements for different car users and whether their will be a fall back onto dirty production methods such as coal and gas as power demand fails to meet supply through completely sustainable methods. Some examples of such lists can be found in the first chapters of Springer's textbook "Hydrogen Fuel Cell Road Vehicle's", though they are outdated because of the rapid improvement of sustainable fuel production and electric vehicles. I think EV's will continue to dominate but I believe there is a space in the world for HFC vehicles, predominantly countries with large landmass and dispersed population (Australia, Russia, Middle East), but the main problem is the huge task of developing SAFE infrastructure due to hydrogen's wide flammability range and the problem of the economics of using carbon-free production methods.

  6. tean tan

    tean tan

    10 klukkustundum síðan

    Very Informative.

  7. Beau Grant

    Beau Grant

    11 klukkustundum síðan

    CNG can be used within a compressed h2 system. I rode in one back in 2008. Ran off e85, unleaded, cng, h2... 2tanks, 1 for liquid fuel, the other for compressed gas. To switch, you can literally punch a button while driving. As for h2 not being green, well that depends on where and how it's produced. We lose any electric current that is not used or stored in a battery. A battery can be a pump pushing water up a pipe, then releasing from the reservoir to recover during peak loads. Rome Ga has such a lake north of town onnBig Valley Road. Look it up. We use to skateboard the pipe before it went online. HUGE pipe. Fun. Iceland has loads of excess geothermal energy. Power plants have creative ways of storing excess power time shifting to peak load periods. There's no reason why H2 cant be uses as the tome shifting battery. Perhaps one of the reasons we dont see a proliferation is the fuel is very often mischaracterized and misrepresented in the mainstream media, as well as the subverted operatives in the independent media. After all, this is a competitive threat to the USA status quo. Btw, when I was working in Thailand near Bangkok on 2012, there were EIGHT fuels on most gas station signs.. 3 unleaded, e85, gasahol, cng, Diesel, and.. hydrogen. Ever wonder why ethanol is e85, not pure ethanol? Market research indicates 15% unleaded is the minimum amount to prevent an alcoholic from loading up a liquor bottle at the gas pump. 15%>> less than that, and folks would drink it.

  8. Fernando Francisco

    Fernando Francisco

    11 klukkustundum síðan

    Too funny what happened in Vegas stays in Vegas lol

  9. deathbunny

    deathbunny

    14 klukkustundum síðan

    i believe hydrogen is probably only good in it's resource renewables, i don't know to much about the mining process of platinum but it is expensive but these vehicles need very little for a catalyst it seems , ev cars though use kg's of lithium which is not very sustainable. but from an energy density perspective the battery beats hydrogen.

  10. Gold Steel

    Gold Steel

    14 klukkustundum síðan

    I'm sorry and I don't want to get rid of Your sponsorship or anyting but I think I'd rather stick with JBL because even their flip 5 is cheaper if I were to just get to than getting one of the kove speakers

  11. Bruce Ellacott

    Bruce Ellacott

    14 klukkustundum síðan

    There's big interest and significant money being spent on hydrogen fuel production in Canada now. The cost is bound to come down.

  12. Bruce Ellacott

    Bruce Ellacott

    14 klukkustundum síðan

    You should do an end to end cost comparison of hydrogen production & fuel cell production vs battery production. Including life duration. One of the things that appeals to me about hydrogen cars is that you don't need to replace the batteries after 8 yrs when the average life age of cars is now over 12 yrs. It's 30% of the cost of car.

  13. Barbatruco

    Barbatruco

    15 klukkustundum síðan

    TOTALLY LITHIUM BATTERY ELECTRIC CAR = SWINDLE HYDROGEN FUEL CELL CAR = SWINDLE CONVENTIONAL ENGINE HYBRID CAR = NOT TO BAD NATURAL GAS ELECTRIC FUEL CELL CAR WITH PMSM ELECTRIC MOTOR = THE BEST AT THE TIME!

    • Simon

      Simon

      6 klukkustundum síðan

      So why do you think natural gas is great?

  14. Bruce Ellacott

    Bruce Ellacott

    15 klukkustundum síðan

    Debatable. Ev's are convenient? At an hour to fill up ? I think your calculations on energy don't include cost of battery production. Renewable energy has times of wasted energy that could be used to produce hydrogen. Building out hydrogen stations is the same problem evs haven't completely solved yet.

    • Simon

      Simon

      6 klukkustundum síðan

      Wrong. Hydrogen will always remain inefficient, that has nothing to do with the number of refilling stations. Excess renewable power will be consumed by charging cars.

  15. Liz Vic

    Liz Vic

    16 klukkustundum síðan

    Hydrogen cars are a flop, next Electrical?

    • Simon

      Simon

      6 klukkustundum síðan

      Of course not

  16. Phil

    Phil

    18 klukkustundum síðan

    I'll stick with gas and diesel.

  17. Aztec Renewable Energy, Inc

    Aztec Renewable Energy, Inc

    18 klukkustundum síðan

    We have enough solar/wind farms taxing onto the grid that they should be producing Green Hydrogen for grid connected fuel cells.

    • Simon

      Simon

      6 klukkustundum síðan

      Meh, in the near future there will be so many EVs charging at any moment of the day that there won’t be any excess power from renewables.

  18. Carlo Leon

    Carlo Leon

    18 klukkustundum síðan

    If electric cars only swiched from lithium traditional batteries to liquid Air batteries.

  19. Кирил Арнаудов

    Кирил Арнаудов

    19 klukkustundum síðan

    what about the carbon print from producing batteries? hydrogen cars are greener even if not efficient as EV

    • Кирил Арнаудов

      Кирил Арнаудов

      5 klukkustundum síðan

      @Simon I am not an expert so I believe you, but what about the recycling of dead batteries?

    • Simon

      Simon

      6 klukkustundum síðan

      Hydrogen cars are not greener. Battery production is currently at about 100 kg of CO2 per kWh. Pretty good and this is decreased every year.

  20. Jagueyes1

    Jagueyes1

    20 klukkustundum síðan

    What about hydrogen production through on-board electrolysis!

    • Jagueyes1

      Jagueyes1

      5 klukkustundum síðan

      @Simon From the alternator as the engine runs.

    • Simon

      Simon

      6 klukkustundum síðan

      So where does the energy come from?!

  21. trunk monkey

    trunk monkey

    20 klukkustundum síðan

    Cuz Big Oil owns Bush junior, that's why!

  22. KwazPlays

    KwazPlays

    21 klukkustund síðan

    Hasn't quite flopped just yet. It's still a little baby project.

  23. Morfeu

    Morfeu

    21 klukkustund síðan

    They are marketed as "Zero Emissions" during their LIFETIME. Electric cars are not "Zero Emissions" during their lifetime, because of the rare earth materials needed to make the batteries (which are incredibly pollutant), and these batteries cannot be discarded anywhere, like fuel cells or petrol tanks, so they have to "offset" their own emissions before starting to be "zero emissions". Hydrogen is the next fuel to be used, if Porsche does not make a huge success with its alternative "petrol".

    • Morfeu

      Morfeu

      23 mínútum síðan

      @Simon "Battery production emissions are compensated for as soon as you start driving." That is where you are wrong. It takes more than 70k miles to offset those emissions from the batteries. Mercedes have lauched a ICE that is a bit over 50% efficiency. Believe me, if Mercedes can do it, Porsche can do it, hydrogen powered cars can do it. Oh, and it is far easier to discard a broken ICE or an hydrogen fuel cell, than a dead car battery. Hydrogen cars are the greenest, from start to end of lifetime.

    • Simon

      Simon

      6 klukkustundum síðan

      Both hydrogen and Porsches synthetic fuels are stupid ideas because they are horribly inefficient. Nobody claims EVs are zero emission, they are low emission. Battery production emissions are compensated for as soon as you start driving.

  24. Crash Dummy

    Crash Dummy

    Degi Síðan síðan

    crappy ads inbetween as if google ads are not enough, and shallow camparisons between the different technologies. how much energy does it take to produce a lithium battery? what do you do with the battery if it's broken? it's hardly recyclable.

  25. JoJoDaBoBo

    JoJoDaBoBo

    Degi Síðan síðan

    High efficiency Solar panels on the roof and h20 to HH O generator in car, just add water, fill up your tank while you are at work , why dont they do that on Teslas? Corrupt as fk

    • JoJoDaBoBo

      JoJoDaBoBo

      2 klukkustundum síðan

      @Simon Use Gods FREE fuel that was provided for us, No

    • Simon

      Simon

      6 klukkustundum síðan

      HHO is super inefficient. Solar on car roof tops is by far not enough to charge a car.

  26. Sokka

    Sokka

    Degi Síðan síðan

    But where do I fuel them up

  27. peri

    peri

    Degi Síðan síðan

    if the electrons and the protons recombine on the other side, cant we reuse them again? its the hydrogen from the left side .

    • Simon

      Simon

      6 klukkustundum síðan

      You need energy for that.

  28. Chmied

    Chmied

    Degi Síðan síðan

    You didn't account for where the electric cars get their electric.

    • Chmied

      Chmied

      2 klukkustundum síðan

      @Simon Yea i caught that, its just an element of the argument that many gloss over. There are a ton of rare earth minerals that have to be mined for these electric cars, and then they have to get lots of electricity from somewhere, and since our grid is 90% coal powered, electric cars are also 90% coal powered. I think in the long run electric cars will be just a gimmick, at least until some sort of high capacity fuel cell is developed that can produce the electricity on board. Don't get me wrong, this was a great video. It funny because I worked for a design firm about 20 years ago that worked on designing the 'gas stations' for the propane cars. We designed allot of them, sounds like not allot of them actually got built.

    • Simon

      Simon

      6 klukkustundum síðan

      Not relevant because they both start with electric. That is the whole point...

  29. Chmied

    Chmied

    Degi Síðan síðan

    Hydrogen cars should be refilled with water, and do the splitting on board. That's what makes a hydrogen car viable.

    • Chmied

      Chmied

      2 klukkustundum síðan

      @Simon That's the problem, the splitting has to be done somewhere. If it could be done onboard efficiently, then you have something.

    • Simon

      Simon

      6 klukkustundum síðan

      So where would that energy come from?!

  30. Moein Mirjalili

    Moein Mirjalili

    Degi Síðan síðan

    GL

  31. andrea cancian

    andrea cancian

    Degi Síðan síðan

    Very good video but you did get wrong the electric car efficiency, it's not 80%, just the energy stock in the litium ion buttery have an efficiency of 75%... Than the transport of electricity with 80% efficiency, it's more like 55% efficiency in total

    • Simon

      Simon

      Degi Síðan síðan

      No, they did it correct. Here is a nice chart: cleantechnica.com/2021/02/01/chart-why-battery-electric-vehicles-beat-hydrogen-electric-vehicles-without-breaking-a-sweat/

  32. Mark Torres

    Mark Torres

    Degi Síðan síðan

    Yo, what if we didn't have to choose one or the other, what is we used both (hybrid), so we could go out to the middle of no wear and not worry about battery running out, or if u were stuck on the side of the road and they just fill u up with hydrogen, so EV being ur main, and hydro being ur "fallback" and ur main let u down.

    • Mark Torres

      Mark Torres

      15 klukkustundum síðan

      @Simon there is a new truck coming out in a few years and its a hybrid of this type, plus we can always change the design of cars.

    • Simon

      Simon

      Degi Síðan síðan

      Because you cannot have both in a average size car. Hydrogen tanks take up a lot of space and so do batteries.

  33. Summer Paradiso

    Summer Paradiso

    Degi Síðan síðan

    Car that pee

  34. MackerelSkyLtd

    MackerelSkyLtd

    Degi Síðan síðan

    I hear manufacturing hydrogen using excess renewables in peak generation is one idea for making hydrogen green.

    • MackerelSkyLtd

      MackerelSkyLtd

      Degi Síðan síðan

      I don't particularly love Lithium-ion as a long-term solution for EVs.

    • MackerelSkyLtd

      MackerelSkyLtd

      Degi Síðan síðan

      @SimonEspecially if solid-state and/or sodium ion batteries are around the corner, yes.

    • Simon

      Simon

      Degi Síðan síðan

      Sure, but that does not mean we should put it in cars.

  35. Utsav Chaudhary

    Utsav Chaudhary

    Degi Síðan síðan

    I want donut media ....to make their own app...where all automotive infos are available with latest news

  36. Dave Johnson

    Dave Johnson

    Degi Síðan síðan

    Just a comment on your analogy the X-Box and Playstation 2 (certainly!) did not have better graphics than the Dreamcast. Dreamcast had a higher polygon rate and ran games consistently at 60 fps (part of "better graphics"). The real reason the Dreamcast died off was because SEGA had already announced that they were becoming a 3rd party developer and were no longer planing to support the new console. Also Xbox came out a year after PS2 along with the Gamecube. Hope that was edifying.

  37. name nome

    name nome

    Degi Síðan síðan

    What power charges electric cars i wonder

    • Simon

      Simon

      Degi Síðan síðan

      All different kinds. Why?

  38. Alex Walker

    Alex Walker

    Degi Síðan síðan

    11 gallons of gas for $32. *Laughs in LA

  39. Zachary Lee

    Zachary Lee

    Degi Síðan síðan

    i have forgotten about the hydrogen car. already

  40. RoarLikeARabbit

    RoarLikeARabbit

    Degi Síðan síðan

    Crustacean / Station Ratio - that is the best metric I didn't know I needed to know 😂

  41. __

    __

    Degi Síðan síðan

    You can make hydrogen from urine and muddy puddles everywhere.

  42. Baby Yoda Academy

    Baby Yoda Academy

    Degi Síðan síðan

    Couldnt we just use hydrogen cells for the excess power generated by windmills and solar farms as a energy storage medium (aka battery)? This way we have enough hydrogen laying around for it to be feasible to use for cars and other mode of transportation. Call me crazy but i could see a future where we just use massive solar panels on pump stations which generate hydrogen day by day. Even though hydrogen is less efficient than using conventional batteries, its a much cheaper way to store energy (which is more expensive than generating energy)

  43. Inline Performance

    Inline Performance

    Degi Síðan síðan

    don't talk about something if you have no idea what you're talking about.. You're a clown

  44. Jens Haun

    Jens Haun

    Degi Síðan síðan

    In Europe the situation is totally different. Costs of the car and H2 is same as comparable cars. Green hydrogen is emerging now and will become much more volume in the market. To install a big charging network a huge invest is needed, also. This is why the key advantages of hydrogen will now drive Fuel Cell cars imto a bigger future.

  45. Str3aT

    Str3aT

    Degi Síðan síðan

    no thoughts about creating the ev batterie? i heard it has a huge impact on the environment

    • Yeti Vanmarshall

      Yeti Vanmarshall

      Degi Síðan síðan

      Absolutely, but the public won't see that through all the smoke and mirrors.

  46. Truth Holder

    Truth Holder

    Degi Síðan síðan

    Nuclear cars. We have nuclear ships and subs, it's time they put efforts towards REAL efficiency.

  47. Patrik Beke

    Patrik Beke

    Degi Síðan síðan

    That comparison of energy efficiency between electric and hydrogen powered cars was waaaay wrong. You have tracked the hydrogen to its source and added the efficiency of the car and everything in between, but failed to mention the electricity making process for the electric car and it’s losses. Do you have an idea how inefficient a coal power plant is?? And also electrolysis is not the only way of getting hydrogen but you have also failed to mention that. I’m sorry for being cocky but I’m a chemical engineer and it hurts to see how biased this video is.

  48. Sam W

    Sam W

    Degi Síðan síðan

    Just give me a stick shift and I'm happy.

  49. b0ricko

    b0ricko

    Degi Síðan síðan

    Did Elon pay for this shit?

    • Simon

      Simon

      Degi Síðan síðan

      Elon is right though.

  50. mrjsanchez1

    mrjsanchez1

    Degi Síðan síðan

    They are having success in Europe using Hydrogen Fuel celled trains(Austria and Germany).

  51. GLADIATOR GAMING INFO

    GLADIATOR GAMING INFO

    Degi Síðan síðan

    Well I think hydrogen is smarter in the sense of construction industry think about plowing, hours, etc… I think there better in that sense idk about electric plow trucks or even heavy machinery.

  52. PLK_ORBIT9224

    PLK_ORBIT9224

    Degi Síðan síðan

    We could use Hydrogen like we use diesel for people who do long trips only thing is we need alot more filling station for that. It sounds more like my sort of thing being a diesel owner my self a ev just dose not have the range and takes to long to fill.

  53. Matt L

    Matt L

    Degi Síðan síðan

    But a EV battery weighs half a tonne on average. Do you know how much rare earth minerals need to be processed? Or 10x the amount of soil we would need to turn in the process? I’m not sure if EV is greener

    • Simon

      Simon

      Degi Síðan síðan

      EV is greener. Hydrogen cars also need ‘rare’ earth materials.

  54. John Curtis

    John Curtis

    2 dögum síðan

    The only thing I know about hydrogen is they make bombs out of it

  55. Michael Mourek

    Michael Mourek

    2 dögum síðan

    Most of the pollution in the WORLD is coming from 18 wheel diesel truck - that can move 80,000 pounds - to move them we WILL need Hydrogen - available at every garbage dump in America. NIKOLA STOCK - Buy Now

  56. Michael Mourek

    Michael Mourek

    2 dögum síðan

    You are correct for hydrogen cars - but not for hydrogen 18 wheel trucks that can move 80,000 pounds - they can fill up at all the garbage dumps in America - Nikola Stock - buy now

  57. ede292

    ede292

    2 dögum síðan

    what's the song from the kove ad?

  58. ede292

    ede292

    2 dögum síðan

    There are multiple hydrogen cars on the road from a few large-name car manufacturers

  59. b kush

    b kush

    2 dögum síðan

    The biggest problem is cost of infrastructure...pipelines would be millions per mile and..oh.. a bit dangerous as well...just a pipedream

  60. A 909

    A 909

    2 dögum síðan

    Hyperion looks like transformers

  61. DHAIRYAWAN

    DHAIRYAWAN

    2 dögum síðan

    i have a project how to solve all this problems and a clear way how a car can be made to work by it efficently but sadly i have just passed tenth now so u would have to wait for more 5 years to see my car PIN MY COMMENT U WOULD BE GETTING TO HEAR A GUY NAMED"DK" FROM INDIA MADE A HYDROGEN CAR JUST WAIT FOR 5 YEARS AND WATCH IF U PIN MY COMMENT I WOULD BE SENDING A ALL THE WAY TO USA WHEN ITS MADE (FOR FREE!! )

  62. Rokinco

    Rokinco

    2 dögum síðan

    So the chemical reaction which occurs in hydrogen cars is very similar to electrolysis?

    • Rokinco

      Rokinco

      2 dögum síðan

      Oh wait, he mentions that just after I wrote that haha

  63. Ret Niot

    Ret Niot

    2 dögum síðan

    What about the amount of lithium needed to produce giant batteries for all those electric vehicles?

    • Simon

      Simon

      2 dögum síðan

      There is plenty of lithium.

  64. Progamerkid 123

    Progamerkid 123

    2 dögum síðan

    Hehehehe nolan

  65. Kevin Fletcher

    Kevin Fletcher

    2 dögum síðan

    Shippping is ideal for hydrogen use.

  66. Salo Vila

    Salo Vila

    2 dögum síðan

    This should actually be called: Hydrogen tanks vs Lithium ion batteries. All comes down to the same problem. The way electricity is produced.

    • Simon

      Simon

      2 dögum síðan

      But even then a hydrogen car consumes 3 times the amount of that electricity, no matter how it was produced.

  67. James Hunter

    James Hunter

    2 dögum síðan

    Why not just put water into cars and electric will split the water into hydrogen and oxygen?

    • Simon

      Simon

      Degi Síðan síðan

      @James Hunter So why not simply drive an electric motor with that energy from the battery?

    • James Hunter

      James Hunter

      Degi Síðan síðan

      @Simon a battery? They can go extreme wattage nowadays. The invention was proven and fixed ten years ago! So we'll oil companies wanted to buy it so it wouldn't be mass produced. When inventor wouldn't sell, he died quite soon after. Story is on ISboths.

    • Simon

      Simon

      2 dögum síðan

      Where would the electricity come from?

  68. Ross Kelly

    Ross Kelly

    2 dögum síðan

    You should do a video on Toyota's new hydrogen combustion engine

  69. Chris Ordway

    Chris Ordway

    2 dögum síðan

    There's so many more problems with hydrogen when you think about the logistics of scaling it up. Transporting it from production facility to hydrogen fueling station at the scale needed to keep a country like the US fueled is mind boggling. It has to be kept super pressurized or negative triple digits cold. It's just a pipe dream compared to electric which can be transported practically instantly over the electric power lines we already have.

  70. HPB

    HPB

    2 dögum síðan

    Here's my gue$$ what happened..

  71. Norwood G.

    Norwood G.

    2 dögum síðan

    Stop making cars that explode you twats.

  72. Danjal Thorsteinsson

    Danjal Thorsteinsson

    2 dögum síðan

    wow impressed, so very little to learn here. and fuck that shill bullshit. a small advice. try something new and dont revoice what everone else are telling?

  73. Mike U

    Mike U

    2 dögum síðan

    Chiron is pronounced "kai - ruhn" not "chai - rown". Uncultured swine.

  74. Thomas Chan

    Thomas Chan

    2 dögum síðan

    An EV might be highly efficient by itself, but the power grid that is delivering electricity is not (Around 2/3 of them are lost!) So EVs are not as efficient as they sound. Not to mention the hugh pollution related problem associated with batteries.

    • Engineering the weird guy

      Engineering the weird guy

      2 dögum síðan

      Power grid itself is efficient. Only around 5% is lost due to transmission. Power plants are at worst 35% efficient but modern ones start at 40%-70% depending on the fuel source. Much more than a combustion engines 20% minus the energy and fuel wastage with refining crude oil into fuels.

  75. Al Kaholic

    Al Kaholic

    2 dögum síðan

    13:42 it is still a problem. Electric cars have issues of their own. They might work for city runabouts in warm and mild climates, but their slow charge times, limited capacity, and degraded performance in the cold means we haven't fixed the problem. The main issue is the one you mentioned earlier - the cost of fuel stations. And that overall they offer less efficiency overall.

    • Simon

      Simon

      2 dögum síðan

      Charging at a fast charger does not take long. Millions of EVs have been doing fine in winter for about a decade in Norway.

  76. Omega Rugal

    Omega Rugal

    2 dögum síðan

    another dead end idea...

  77. Megatron Knows

    Megatron Knows

    2 dögum síðan

    Let's build cars that run on Lobster! 🦞

  78. BobRooney

    BobRooney

    2 dögum síðan

    good ti know. didnt realize the inefficiency from production to usage. thats pretty bad. all makers are determined now to go all electric, so there's that. and the charging can be anywhere, at home, parking lot, from your back yard solar panels, etc.

  79. Richard Weinberger

    Richard Weinberger

    2 dögum síðan

    As if this story is over. Every energy source comes and goes as the market dictates. Stay tuned.

  80. Cannon Kunde

    Cannon Kunde

    2 dögum síðan

    "EV vehicles"

  81. Aadithya Abishek

    Aadithya Abishek

    2 dögum síðan

    So how much is the distance per dollar for hydrogen though??

  82. Max Thrust

    Max Thrust

    2 dögum síðan

    Clearly we need to find a way to fuel cars with lobsters.

  83. Iwahn Apon

    Iwahn Apon

    2 dögum síðan

    It lost track because first we need to sell EV's. At the moment almost no-one wants to buy a hydrogen car, because refilling station selling hydrogen are rare;' and stations don't sell hydrogen because there are hardly cars that need hydrogen. It will be changed soon, probably within 7 years. Batteries are the new asbestos of the future, just like solar panels.

  84. Kyle Vanwinkle

    Kyle Vanwinkle

    2 dögum síðan

    Ever seen a hydrogen refining unit? Green energy is just hiding pollution somewhere else.. The only green energy I currently support is hydroelectric and geo thermal. Wind power is a scam only worth doing because govt subsidizes, same with solar. Nat gas power plants can be very clean compared to coal power, and nuclear is even cleaner granted nuclear waste is horrible. If we could use a nuclear fuel with a much shorter half life the waste may not be a severe of an issue.

    • Kyle Vanwinkle

      Kyle Vanwinkle

      2 dögum síðan

      @Simon lol no the amount of pollution it takes to make the fiberglass blades alone is ridiculous compared to the carbon offset provided by the use of the wind which is short lived considering the short service life. Solar has similar issues with the building of the panel creating quite a bit of pollution and relatively short service life. Plus solar super heats the area around the panels mostly above. Being I'm an industry that caters to the assembly and maintenance of these systems. Give a different perspective. Govt subsidies keeps them going on the premise that it's "green energy" hiding all the carbon foot print it take to build and maintain. Same issue with battery powered vehicles the battery packs are horrible for the environment from digging the raw ore out of the ground to disposal at end of life cycle

    • Simon

      Simon

      2 dögum síðan

      You are clearly behind on wind and solar.

  85. Alex Daskalopoulos

    Alex Daskalopoulos

    2 dögum síðan

    There are a lot of losses in the power system when charging electric cars too. You didn’t add that in the calculation

  86. Vengeful_

    Vengeful_

    2 dögum síðan

    So it’s basically a very expensive water maker...im in

  87. The Boeing Kid

    The Boeing Kid

    2 dögum síðan

    Hydrogen fuel cell isn't the future anyway. It'll be either hydrogen fueled piston engines or hydrogen fueled turbine engines. Either way, hydrogen cars won't take over electric cars for at least 100 years. But we will have hydrogen fueled airliners long before that

    • Engineering the weird guy

      Engineering the weird guy

      2 dögum síðan

      They won’t be hydrogen piston combustion engines. They’ll be fuel cells

  88. Michael Nyffeler

    Michael Nyffeler

    2 dögum síðan

    Environment... it would be worth mentioning how bad the battery production for the environment is. This is the reason why I prefer my old style car over a battery car and burn fossil fuels, personally I would prefer hydrogen, but this is currently too expensive. China is now investing billions in this technology, maybe there is something affordable in the near future.

    • Simon

      Simon

      2 dögum síðan

      Battery production is not worse than driving a petrol car. Hydrogen will always remain expensive.

  89. Jakub Jakl

    Jakub Jakl

    3 dögum síðan

    Its not pricy, in EU I now pay more $ per km for gasoline.

  90. John Smith

    John Smith

    3 dögum síðan

    So if you hate electric cars, you should REALLY hate hydrogen cars. They take twice the electricity away from the grid with the only real advantage being a faster refuel time.

  91. John Wilkinson

    John Wilkinson

    3 dögum síðan

    Ok there is a long way to go. But. Resycal battery. They are dangerous to take apart. Green hydrogen? It will come but we have to wait for the environment to be mess with unrecyclable batteries.

  92. kenny228s

    kenny228s

    3 dögum síðan

    When did this guys become cringe?

  93. niven stines

    niven stines

    3 dögum síðan

    The comparison with BEVs and fossil fuels doesn’t take into account the energy lost in the electricity grid ( which is a lot ) or the energy used in fossil fuel extraction and production ( which is a lot ) Much of the info in this vid is already out of date. New membrane and catalysis technologies are frantically improving efficiency, and storage and transport of hydrogen as ammonia dramatically reduces costs of both. Likely hydrogen fuel price in the near future will be around $1US/kg. Hydrogen uptake for industrial energy is increasing rapidly, so price and availability will improve with this too. Rapid refill and long range will be very attractive for interstate travel, not just coaches, haulage and airplanes, but cabs/ride sharing, couriers & private vehicles too.

    • Simon

      Simon

      2 dögum síðan

      EV will always win efficiency wise. And no, transmissions losses in the grid are not a lot. Only about 5%.

  94. NightBreaker

    NightBreaker

    3 dögum síðan

    It just sucks that a telsa takes 100 years to recharge. (I know not that long), but I find this "war" is like betamax vs vhs. And I feel like its the VHS that wins again. the Hydrogen is easy of use. but not cool, nor is it cheap. But just here where I live, getting your telsa charged on a supercharge takes time. not to charge, but for the space to get free. most people leave theyre car a the charge and dont come back for an hour or so. Dont have a telsa, you need a cover to charge.

    • Simon

      Simon

      2 dögum síðan

      @NightBreaker Depends on where you live. Tesla supercharger network is really well covered in Europe and North America which makes road tripping very easy. The charger plugs are already standardized.

    • NightBreaker

      NightBreaker

      2 dögum síðan

      @Simon Correct. We just need 1000 x more stations. Also peolpe dont set in their cars and wait. Which in some case, make ,that you wait for a spot to charge. Becuase it tales more then 5mins. Im All for elektric but er need more stations. And same standard for chargers

    • Simon

      Simon

      2 dögum síðan

      Supercharging is very fast dude.

  95. RhedinRage

    RhedinRage

    3 dögum síðan

    Hydrogen's big problem is that there's no need for it, Much like EV's, these alternate techs are being pushed by feelings, politics and backdoor deals, not by science. The simple science is, Co2 is good for the earth, oil is no where near running out and oil will renew for as long as the sun shines on the earth.

  96. Marcus Casagrande

    Marcus Casagrande

    3 dögum síðan

    Ok, I never thought about using a beanie in my life, but donut had really strong points to make me rethink about it. Damn it give me that beanie!

  97. Saveliy Goreev

    Saveliy Goreev

    3 dögum síðan

    you didnt talk about the safety of the car. A hydrogen car requires liquid hydrogen to be stored at below-freezing temperatures while hydrogen gas is very explosive.

  98. Luca Reyne

    Luca Reyne

    3 dögum síðan

    I think that efficiency of hydrogen cars is a little better (no more than 5% I think) that mentioned by the studies as hydrogen cell vs battery has a little better ratio of weight (and volume) by range. So the hydrogen car weight less and so need less energy in this regard to move than battery powered one. But overall, ad it's said, hydrogen car is inferior to battery today for pratically everything.

  99. electrobob1

    electrobob1

    3 dögum síðan

    How much power does it cost to charge a EV vs hydrogen? Only hydrogen has been explained right? For me, LPG has the lowest footprint IMO

    • Simon

      Simon

      3 dögum síðan

      An EV only requires 1/3 of the elctric energy. LPG still causes a lot of CO2 emissions.

  100. Ronix Studio

    Ronix Studio

    3 dögum síðan

    But isn't it was worse for the environment to produce an electric car because of the battery etc.?

    • Simon

      Simon

      3 dögum síðan

      ​@Ronix Studio Depends of the manufacturer how much there is needed for a battery pack. But yes, cobalt is a bit of a concern. However, cobalt has been used for decades in various different electrical appliances (hydrogen cars included) and also the oil industry is one of the biggest consumers of cobalt for industrial catalysts (desulphurisation of fuels).

    • Ronix Studio

      Ronix Studio

      3 dögum síðan

      @Simon dont you see how much cobalt they take to make these batteries?

    • Simon

      Simon

      3 dögum síðan

      No, it is not. The production emissions of batteries are quickly compensated for when you start driving.